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let's let's go to a headline here and

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this is titled is a serial killer gang

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murdering young men across the u.s. this

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comes from a Daily Beast a serial killer

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gang dozens of college-age men dead from

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accidental drownings but a team of

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retired detectives say the boys were

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drugged and killed by a shadowy gang

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with a sinister symbol the smiley face

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gang now some people say this is this

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this really kind of has some hallmarks

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of missing 411 that very well could be

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true because in some of the missing 411

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fiction victims a trace amounts of GHB

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are found and their most of the victims

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a lot of the the missing 411 profile are

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found near bodies of water or in bodies

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of water on the evening of December 15th

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Dakota James which we've talked about on

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the show called his friend Shelley in a

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panic he was cold disoriented and scared

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out of his mind wandering the streets of

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downtown Pittsburgh trying to find

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someone anyone who would help him he

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says I don't know where I am he told her

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sobbing I'm so cold please help me I'm

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lost

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Shelley didn't hesitate I'm thinking did

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he get mugged did he get beat up was he

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in a car accident

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she told the bait Daily Beast I was so

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scared where are you I'm coming

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Pittsburgh North Side she quickly hopped

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into her car to go get him then

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remembered she could use her cell phone

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to figure out where he was so this is a

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big long story we talk we talk about

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Dakota James and he was laughs I

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blasting I think it seemed leaving a bar

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near fairly close to a river and just

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like three rivers going going on in

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Pittsburgh and he was found near a river

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so I was cut to cut down to the the

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ended article which is very lengthy so

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there's a side screen yes so a lot of

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people who speculate on the missing four

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oh and one who want to find something a

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more non-paranormal suggests it is a

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gang of serial killers doing the missing

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411 stop so have you been looking for

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digital SLRs I see the banners that

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you're being targeted with I am I am I'm

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looking for a good camera we are also

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looking for a camera for Nicole's

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daughter yeah I don't know how much

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money I really want to spend on it but

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this the wrap this up real quick de kado

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Dakota was clearly murdered Kevin Gannon

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a retired New York City police sergeant

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said who has devoted his life to solving

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these cases he told The Daily Beast the

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evidence to support that claim

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James's body wasn't decomposed enough to

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have been in the water for 40 days

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Deanna said his body was undamaged

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despite traveling 10 miles downriver and

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underneath a concrete concrete and steel

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dam to get where was found someone used

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his PayPal account for $11.99

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transaction two days after he vanished

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and there appeared to be la littérature

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marks ligature marks around the gutter

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marks around his neck indicating he was

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strangled and so there are the and there

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were 11 smiley face symbols

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spray-painted on the Roberto Clemente

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bridge the closest bridge to where James

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was found and where police believe he

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fell into the water so this is a fairly

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well done article by The Daily Beast

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concerning a gang of serial killers

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doing this kind of criminal activity you

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know David Politis touched on some stuff

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I believe in the book off the grid where

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he kind of focused on college aged men

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that went missing and there are you can

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high-profile ones there's one in

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Columbus Ohio where there was a there's

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a college guy he was at a bar he was

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seen on camera and he was never seen

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again and and David played us goes

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through some of that stuff

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I don't know what do you think about a

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gang of sewer killers called the smiley

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face killers Joe

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well I wouldn't join it yeah I mean I

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don't know with the Luthor that they

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have a see your handshake or anything

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like that but it sounds it sounds pretty

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menacing a gang of serial killers like

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one serial killer is pretty bad I mean

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you think about Jack the Ripper and all

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that other stuff Jeffrey Dahmer and one

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serial killers pretty bad the article

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goes on to say the targeting the best of

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students are the best athletes and they

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constantly recruiting yet years ago when

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they're recruiting the the circle team

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is recruiting gonna LinkedIn job posts

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guys years ago when we were on their

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dark web page do you believe this at all

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it was asking us to turn on a video

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camera so they could see who was about

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to type in the password and there's no

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way that we were going to do that I

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don't this seems so there's a group of

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serial killer circulars who actively

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recruit on the dark web Thank You

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crashes the phone lines wide open six

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one four three eight eight nine one oh

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and let's go we do kill baby Hitler

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killer cult and thank you credit for

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this Oh figure that out hello caller

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you're on the air hello hello what could

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I help you with today what's going on

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what is I your mining mind I cannot

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believe my leafy pillars my current

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favorite conspiracy and/or urban legend

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hey this this is this is Rob me your age

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I'm from New York yeah I've been looking

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into this for a little bit there's a guy

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out there named William Lyons

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he covers this extensively

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there's also a piece book page called

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smiling face killers USA if you check

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that out

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Jim Smith I think this is the guy the

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researchers name basically it has

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elements of 401 1 in it missing 1 1 1

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but the similarities between all these

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cases that is young men college age 18

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to meet at the latest 40 and they go

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they disappear and then they're sound

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you know Oh days weeks months later but

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the other similarity is that they're

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usually found near a body of water or in

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a body of water yeah Mike we're still

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close we can maybe get you get in on

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this they might come for us some of some

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of the places where that body was put

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into water or found near water they

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happen to find a smiley face so it is

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not only the smiley face there but it

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all has the same similarities these

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killers we're like smiley face masks and

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walk around like that because that'd be

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really easy to discover who they were if

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they did that I think what the thing is

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is that it's symbolism like like a

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looking like a nihilistic symbolism like

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life doesn't matter and pretty much you

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know we get away with it and be happy

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about it it's kind of like what the

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smiley face symbolism is is the way that

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this guy William Ramsay explains it well

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do you think this accounts for some of

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because in some of the missing for 11

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cases there are bodies that are found

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under trees and you have kids that under

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the age of 3 that travel like 90 miles

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within a day and so when it comes to the

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of college-aged highly-educated being

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killed in in near water that doesn't

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relate to the rest of like the national

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differences there

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yeah this is something that was the

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fastest money they stock gets brought up

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over and over again on the show and it's

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honestly something I haven't taken the

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time to look at and I would probably

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like to maybe try to get this guy in

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your show William William Ramsay I think

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that's a good idea yeah I think we need

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to do that sooner than later

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so I would like to know more about this

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and see actually how widespread it is

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because uh you've got The Daily Beast

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right now the nationwide phenomena and

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apparently the same thing happens and

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the same similar thing going on in

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England to I think it's called people

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know some wound up getting canal and

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they're like they're basically pushed

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into the canal by Joe I was gonna say

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like Dustin brought a lot on recession

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that I didn't know about another but

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from New York oh yeah I'm sorry Rob -

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Rob yeah I'm sorry Rob from New York

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what were you saying Joe yeah I think

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he's bringing a lot to the conversation

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I think if he's recommending this guest

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like this this it's tangent in Gentilly

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tangentially it's related to for one one

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but it doesn't sound like it's fallen

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one it sounds like a separate thing it's

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like it's almost like a parody or

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something of it

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yeah I dig it well hey thank you Rob you

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got anything else for us before we move

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on yeah perfect guys enjoy your non

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snowing states yes thank you

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you know you enjoy the fun and fun

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good luck they're out there in New York

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it's time to laugh again oh yeah big

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thanks for caring about me and when it

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comes to Thai are having some time to

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laugh again I do have a story we'll get

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off the smiley face colors for if you

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want to join the snake or disco give us

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